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Post by Goemon on Mar 14, 2006 2:07:08 GMT -5
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phry
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Post by phry on Mar 14, 2006 13:49:02 GMT -5
A great pity, since chef was perhaps the show's greatest character after Cartman.
I guess that he was ok with the show mocking everyone but scientologists. Seems hypocritical really. Most likely his celebrity scientology friends had a few words with him.
I never thought of South Park to be bigoted since the show has made fun out of pretty much everybody at some stage. The show's mockery often seems to be focused on the 'moral majority's' reaction to events and controversey than the issues themselves.
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Post by Kazuya_UK on Mar 14, 2006 15:39:51 GMT -5
A great pity, since chef was perhaps the show's greatest character after Cartman. I guess that he was ok with the show mocking everyone but scientologists. Seems hypocritical really. Most likely his celebrity scientology friends had a few words with him. I never thought of South Park to be bigoted since the show has made fun out of pretty much everybody at some stage. The show's mockery often seems to be focused on the 'moral majority's' reaction to events and controversey than the issues themselves. Bang on, my sentiments exactly. So let me get this straight - to him it's ok to take the piss out of Muslims, Jews. Christians, Mormons etc etc etc, but as soon as *his* religion is mentioned he gets offended. Matt Stone seems to have got it right when he said that kind of opinion is "where racial bigotry begins". I liked Isaac Hayes before, but this is retarded. Kaz |
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Post by Raiken on Mar 16, 2006 0:08:49 GMT -5
Haha wow. Damn pity. That episode is too damn funny ;D
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Post by Candycab on Mar 16, 2006 0:19:20 GMT -5
A great pity, since chef was perhaps the show's greatest character after Cartman. I guess that he was ok with the show mocking everyone but scientologists. Seems hypocritical really. Most likely his celebrity scientology friends had a few words with him. I never thought of South Park to be bigoted since the show has made fun out of pretty much everybody at some stage. The show's mockery often seems to be focused on the 'moral majority's' reaction to events and controversey than the issues themselves. Bang on, my sentiments exactly. So let me get this straight - to him it's ok to take the piss out of Muslims, Jews. Christians, Mormons etc etc etc, but as soon as *his* religion is mentioned he gets offended. Matt Stone seems to have got it right when he said that kind of opinion is "where racial bigotry begins". I liked Isaac Hayes before, but this is retarded. Kaz I agree with both of you guys... Umm Im gonna start my own religion soon anybody wanna be my sheep ? ;D and give me 30% of youre income ...I will let you play with my shiny flashy calculator  Hey it worked for L.Ron Hubbard  and probably most other religions aswell... Ok so there you have it .... thats pretty much why I think religion is a total scam in general. You know in about 2000 years people will believe in Scientology as deeply as Christianity since they will have facts to back it up bye then and if it was around 2000 years ago then it must be true right ? Give me a break ........... If it wallks like a duck ? Then........well you know |
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Post by Goemon on Mar 16, 2006 7:59:10 GMT -5
I think religion is a total scam in general. I feel the same. Not even to mention that we'd be far closer to global peace if it wasn't for religion. |
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Post by Kazuya_UK on Mar 16, 2006 19:04:48 GMT -5
Haha wow. Damn pity. That episode is too damn funny ;D "And I was just standing here, and Tom Cruise John Travolta locked themselves in the closet, man this is crazy fucked up shit. Then I got kinda angry, SO I PULLED OUT MY GUN and said if Tom Cruise John Travolta don't come out the closet.... I'm gonna cap dis bitch!" Gotta love it ;D Yeah, I'm not anti religion exactly, and everyone is entitled to their own beliefs... of course, until they either: a) Try to force those beliefs down others throats b) Use it as an excuse for violence/murder c) Use it to extort money etc etc This is why I am not religious. I believe in God, or at least SOME KIND of higher power, but I do not subscribe to any kind of organised religion and never will. I have my own beliefs, and I think that provided I am a good person and help others, if there is a Heaven then hopefully I'll get there. I don't see why going to Church every Sunday and then being a complete bastard for the rest of the week (like SOME people do) would make me a better person... Anyway, end of rant! ;D Hope I'm not offending anyone by saying that, as I said I am tolerant to everyones beliefs, provided they aren't doing any of the 3 things I mentioned above. Kaz |
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Post by sepiasongs on Mar 16, 2006 20:58:06 GMT -5
i think its a bit silly for isaac hayes to leave, but then again, its his choice, he's probably made shed loads from that and his record sales back in the day that he might just have been waiting for an excuse to retire and put his feet up anyway. you know what all these l.a. types are like. still, its a sad day for the series especially given the way in which the show works, since the characters were hardly the most complex ones ever created, but the situations they were put in made it at the least unpredictable and the most brillant, just see the "lord of the rings" episode.
as for the religion argument, i have a few small beliefs but when you force something down someone's throat
chances are thery're going throw up something unpleasant.
but still, i think its important not to generalise too much. i mean have a couple of good friends who're religous, but are also two of the most open minded, inspiring and non judgemental people i've ever met. in fact i remember talking to one a while back about her plans to go on a night out to a lesbian strip club in brighton. thus, regardless on what people might think about the rights and wrongs of someone's faith (or lack of for that matter), it can't be denied that it plays a large part in making them who they are. conversely, i've met a fair amount of other people who are very vocal about what the things they believe to be self evident but are themselves in fact very self centred people.
i don't know, i'm sure humanity isn't too hard pushed to find things to argue about: trade, food, resources, terrirory, the list is endless. generally we're living in a more secular liberal age, there's no more open state sponsored militant christianity (as there was in the nineteenth century) or talks of a "crusade" of sorts in going to war with iraq, was there? sure, bush and blair did admit to being influenced by god in their decision but they didn't say that in front of the u.n. or parliament did they? in fact religion notwithstanding, the tactics of modern warfare is still based around the notions of industrialised warfare that date back to the first world war with each side desperately trying to get the technological upper hand in order to secure a quick and sweeping victory. furthermore, what about in antiquity prior to anything near judeo-christan notions of peace and good will etc. rome's empire was practically built as a result of consuls out for glory, political capital and slaves while private armies wanted land to settle on and booty to live off regardless of the amount of buring cities, raping, looting and pillageing required.
now, i'm not saying that everyone who believes that no religion = less war is a filthy heathern or whatever, since this is one of those topics that you pay your money and take your choice. after all, the basis behind both religious and atheist belief is the lack of testable proof. but if people are going to discuss all this, i do think its important to keep things in perspective.
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Post by Raiken on Mar 16, 2006 21:55:55 GMT -5
Said it before and I'll say it again. There ain't nothin better then living in sin.
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Post by Candycab on Mar 16, 2006 22:14:32 GMT -5
Said it before and I'll say it again. There ain't nothin better then living in sin. Amen  |
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Post by Goemon on Mar 18, 2006 3:58:26 GMT -5
i don't know, i'm sure humanity isn't too hard pushed to find things to argue about: trade, food, resources, terrirory, the list is endless. generally we're living in a more secular liberal age, there's no more open state sponsored militant christianity (as there was in the nineteenth century) or talks of a "crusade" of sorts in going to war with iraq, was there? sure, bush and blair did admit to being influenced by god in their decision but they didn't say that in front of the u.n. or parliament did they? in fact religion notwithstanding, the tactics of modern warfare is still based around the notions of industrialised warfare that date back to the first world war with each side desperately trying to get the technological upper hand in order to secure a quick and sweeping victory. furthermore, what about in antiquity prior to anything near judeo-christan notions of peace and good will etc. rome's empire was practically built as a result of consuls out for glory, political capital and slaves while private armies wanted land to settle on and booty to live off regardless of the amount of buring cities, raping, looting and pillageing required. now, i'm not saying that everyone who believes that no religion = less war is a filthy heathern or whatever, since this is one of those topics that you pay your money and take your choice. after all, the basis behind both religious and atheist belief is the lack of testable proof. but if people are going to discuss all this, i do think its important to keep things in perspective. Well, i realize that what i said could have come off making me seem like some kind of crazy hippie. Though i believe most politicians are a bit pathetic, i'm more of a conservative then democrat. I'm just saying that through history religion has been a huge basis for many wars and it what further seperates cultures. It has a habit of making crazy ass people even more crazy in them trying to justify their bull shit. Religion plays a huge role in the brain washing of all the terrorist we're having a situation with now and things would be better off without it imo. Also, i'm a very realistic person and i hate when people blame their habits or actions on the "devil" or something of that nature. It's like some overly religious people are living in some crazy fantasy land. |
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Post by XxSniperxX on Mar 19, 2006 13:14:22 GMT -5
He sure thought it was funny when they made fun of other religions. I'm sure he didn't mind his paycheck either. What a fool.
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Post by phry on Mar 19, 2006 14:36:58 GMT -5
Wow this thread is getting heavy, though I agree with pretty much everything said so far. I thought that religion was supposed to bring people together, not drive them apart. As fot the whole Issac Hayes thing, I found this clip from the Kimmel show quite amusing www.devilducky.com/media/43364/Is it me or is the Scientology thing in Hollywood becomeing like some kind of fashionable secret society. I hate the whole region for fashion thing, like when you see shows about movie stars trying to outdo each other by building churches in their back yards or the copious amounts of over-priced 'kabbalah mineral water' drank by Madonna etc. I saw this show on MTV where that Jacob the Jeweller guy was selling 'bling-crucifixes' (worth hundreds of thousands of dollars each) to P Diddy etc. Personally, I'm not religious, but I hardly see the wearing of 'christ-bling' as being Christian. |
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Post by Raiken on Mar 20, 2006 16:10:02 GMT -5
Here's the South Park creator's press release word for word:
"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!"
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Post by Kazuya_UK on Mar 20, 2006 17:49:33 GMT -5
Hahaha, that's class! ;D
Kaz
ps Phry, I totally agree... I'm not Christian at all as I said, but not many things irritate me more than people wearing crucifixes as a fashion accessory and nothing else.
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