mame 32 problem

[sepiasongs]

hello everyone.

i recently downloaded the latest version of mame and to my shock and horror newer and 3d stuff like tekken 3, ehrgeiz work. but, at a price, the music is terrible and the the games run sooo slowly or crash after one fight in the case of tekken 3. anyway i've played with the frameskip (which speeds them up to 25 fps) and closed down all other apps, but i still can;t get them to run any faster. does anyone know a way of doing this?

btw. my computer is a dell dimension 8300 with an intel pentium 4 2.6ghz, 512mb of ram, and an 128mb NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 graphics card.

i'd hate to think that its a hardware problem since the system 12's specs seem quite ancient in comparison:

Main CPU : R3000A 32 bit RISC processor, Clock- 48MHz, Operating performance - 30 MIPS, Instruction Cache - 4 KB
BUS : 132 MB/sec.
OS ROM : 512 Kilobytes
Sound CPU : Hitachi H8 3002
Additional Sound Chip : Namco C352 sample playback
Main RAM: 2 Megabytes
Video RAM: 2 Megabyte
Sound RAM : 512 Kilobytes
Graphical Processor : 360,000 polygons/sec, Sprite/BG drawing, Adjustable frame buffer, No line restriction, 4,000 8x8 pixel sprites with individual scaling and rotation, Simultaneous backgrounds (Parallax scrolling)
Sprite Effects : Rotation, Scaling up/down, Warping, Transparency, Fading, Priority, Vertical and horizontal line scroll
Resolution : 256x224 - 740x480
Colours : 16.7 million colors, Unlimited CLUTs (Color Look-Up Tables)
Other Features : custom geometry engine, custom polygon engine, MJPEG decoder
Notes : All roms are surface mounted Intel flash roms, with all the roms on the mainboard apart from the graphics roms which are on a seperate rom board.
The boards are therefore unique to each game and you cannot swap roms from one to another.

although i could be wrong. anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks!

[Edge]

The problem is not your computer, rather those ROM carts are still a WIP. That why there isn't any sound and the framerates are low. Those games, as well as a few CPS3 games, are still getting developed in order to emulate them and make them run better.

Yes, there are CPS3 ROMs, unfortunately, they don't work.

[sepiasongs]

cheers mate, i was beginning to fear that the first virtua fighter was the limit after which my pc shits itself and goes into rigor mortis.

i've seen cps3 roms advertised on various places but never touched them since i heard that everytime someone tries to dump one the security chips commit suicide making the whole board just an expensive grey paper weight and a pointless exercise. i wonder how they got round that?

[Edge]

sepiasongs said:

cheers mate, i was beginning to fear that the first virtua fighter was the limit after which my pc shits itself and goes into rigor mortis.

i've seen cps3 roms advertised on various places but never touched them since i heard that everytime someone tries to dump one the security chips commit suicide making the whole board just an expensive grey paper weight and a pointless exercise. i wonder how they got round that?

Well that's the problem, during the dumping process of the ROM, the security chip overloads the memory which causes the board itself to fry, so basically your left with a dumped ROM file of nothing. Unfortunately, people take avantage of this and still zip the corrupted files as ROM files.

There isn't a way to bypass the CPS3 security chips without the board itself frying out. However, with some time and effort they'll find a way around it.

[sepiasongs]

edge said:

Well that's the problem, during the dumping process of the ROM, the security chip overloads the memory which causes the board itself to fry, so basically your left with a dumped ROM file of nothing. Unfortunately, people take avantage of this and still zip the corrupted files as ROM files.

that's what i thought and moreover, its why i continue to steer clear of them. either that or more unscrupulous rom providers will probably bundle it with a shed load of spyware. mind you, downloading a corrupt rom with no emulator to run it with is pretty stupid in the first place. just deserts, no?

[Edge]

sepiasongs said:

edge said:

Well that's the problem, during the dumping process of the ROM, the security chip overloads the memory which causes the board itself to fry, so basically your left with a dumped ROM file of nothing. Unfortunately, people take avantage of this and still zip the corrupted files as ROM files.

that's what i thought and moreover, its why i continue to steer clear of them. either that or more unscrupulous rom providers will probably bundle it with a shed load of spyware. mind you, downloading a corrupt rom with no emulator to run it with is pretty stupid in the first place. just deserts, no?

Pretty much. But the files have no real effect on the computer, it's just that these ROMs files are filled with empty memory spots, making them pretty useless, unless your a developer who can memory dump these files and see which ones the board intentionally destroyed.

[werD]

You could always try a dreamcast emulator for some cps3 games (Third Strike). But if you thought that Tekken ran slow....

Yeah your computer is great and I shall now pointlessly agree Edge.
Some games though don't run at computer. For the record, if they ever get the roms done and it still runs slow, you'd have to upgrade your CPU (not the ram)

-Drew

[Edge]

Definitely true. Couldn't have said it better.

[sepiasongs]

werd said:

You could always try a dreamcast emulator for some cps3 games (Third Strike). But if you thought that Tekken ran slow....

-Drew

haha, well i'm kind of glad i didn't bother wuth dreamcast emulation. i gave up on trying to run isos a long time ago since spending half a night getting nowhere trying to run snatcher on gens.

[hullcityfcmad]

you'll find that processor speed is the only thing that really affects mame's speed to emulate games...your graphics card has nothing to do with it.if you want to run tekken 3 faster get a faster processor.
hcfcmad

[sepiasongs]

well, i know all about the faster processor = faster mame thing in fact the reason why i got the computer that i did was because i wanted to run all the games on mame that i loved i.e. neogeo, cps2 etc at full speed, which it does.

but i'm not too bothered about tekken 3 running at full speed since i have the psone port back home (just not here at uni) so i'm not losing sleep over it.

[werD]

What I have done to run games that need faster computers is cheat. I've got mame in my arcade adn when I wanted to run Street Fighter 3rd Strike, I found a port for Xbox. I can connect my Xbox up to my arcade now and play from there. Maybe something is possible for Tekken.