Should More Fatal Fury and AOF games be made?

[luvsbluemary]

Hey guys I am new here...how is it going?

I first off love and play SNK games especially the older titles. Now I asked this at Neo.Com and I want to ask this here and that is should SNKP at least try to make a new FF(Not MOTW'S) and a new AOF game? I personally would love to see these great series revived and furthermore they helped jump start "KOF"

Both titles had creativity and Uniqueness to the table plus Terry Bogard in my eyes was the greatest hero for SNK. It makes me a little sad because it seems that FF and AOF are dead even though Terry and Ryo and Co. are in "KOF" they just dont seem the same as in their respective titles and they somehow seem to look weak and inferior next to KOF's main characters...especially Kyo and Iori.

I read something on S-C.com where Playmore was asked about why no more Fatal Fury and AOF. They replied that both FF and AOF are revived in KOF MI 1 and 2. I personally thought that was a front because first off Kyo and Iori are there and they seem to be the head Rivals to Alba and Soiree instead of Terry and Ryo who are "Southtowns boys" I saw one comic that dealt with Kyo and Alba.

I just wish that a new FF and AOF would be made so the characters of these series can take a break of being slot fillers in KOF and have something revolve around them for a change. I know KOF is popular but it's KOF after KOF. Anyways I wonder you guys here feel on this subject.

[Kazuya_UK]

Hi and welcome to the forum!

Yeah I feel more or less the same way, especially about a new AOF game... but I really doubt either will ever happen. I must admit though, I'd prefer to see a MOTW2 rather than a new Fatal Fury, mainly because there are SO MANY loose ends from Mark of the Wolves that need to be tied up, but it seems that SNK are hell bent on messing up the continuity even more than it already is, by continuing those storylines in both KOF XI and MI.

Would be nice to see slightly older versions of Mai, Blue Mary, Yamazaki and some of the others too!

Kaz

[RoninBuddha]

First of all, Welcome to our humble little community here at Neogeoforlife.com

well, Seeing that SNKP doesnt ahve plans to "revive" the two classic franchises, then i guess we dont ahve a choice anymore. Not that i dont like the two series, FatalFury/RB and AOF, but those games (story wise) are practically complete. so i guess there's nothing left to do than to link them into the KOF series...

i for one think that MI being teh new "southtown saga" is a good idea, but certain stuff ruin it, like the apperance of Kyo and Iori cuz we all know that they reside in Osaka, Japan.

To be honest, FF had its fair share of sequels /games, and MOTW was a good idea. AOF on the other hand seemed less cuz it only consisted of 3 games, but AOF series was far more indepth in the character inter-action.

anyway, what i personally would like to see is for SNK to creat some new franchises, i missed 80-early90's & 1998-1999 SNK, it was thier prime years imo, They released a variety of games like Ikari , Athena and Crysalis, and in 98-99 Not only did they release KOF98, but they took part also on venturing in some new franchises like Last Blade, Buriki-One. Now that was variety there.

i just think SNKP should be more creative, sad to say but they shoud take a hint from capcom, videogames are just about Fighters

again, welcome and hope you enjoy it here.

[danny]

Personally I actually prefer Fatal Fury to KOF, now that may sound completely odd or stupid but I prefer how the game looks (brighter, colourful, slightly more over the top etc) and plays (simpler, I prefer the button layout on Real Bout more tbh) than the KOF series.

I'm also a huge King of the Monsters fan, believe it or not there is now a real life wrestling fed' which is kind inspired by the original wrestling based King of the Monsters. The fed is called Kaiju Big Battel and I would strongly suggest checking out their video section especially the Brooklyn Double Danger video to get a better idea of what it's all about. (Oh yeah forgot to mention I love giant monster disaster films lol)

Anyway I also hope they do more Samurai Showdown games but don't go to over the top with the gore, I don't want this turning into Mortal Krapbat (see what I did there? ) but I doubt SNKp will take it along that route which is probably one of their more "enlightened" choices that they have made over the years.

[RoninBuddha]

off topic: Gamera is prolly my favorite Kaiju monster... sure he's a poor man's godzilla, but he looks way cooler in my opinion...

[gray117]

I'm not sure what I would like to see in new FF or AOF game... I mean would you want a remake or would you want a complete overhaul?

KOF series did a variation of things with the game mechanics over the years which kind of suited its yearly update even if the games were not necessarily 'improvements' ... hell peole always liked trying to comparing them right?

Given the huge gap in time I would be uncertain what I would want from a new AOF or FF ...

I would be partial to a complete overhaul ... but what would you call it? I think they had this problem when they made motw ... People probably felt uneasy adding onto the original 1-3 or real bout franchises... maybe use the year system

Fatal Fury '06 ... Art of Fighting '06 .... hmmm ...

Perhaps the best arguement for a new FF or AOF game is the idea to let KOF off the boil for a while... before coming back to it at some point.

And, danny, yeah I'd really like to see a good monster wrestling based game ... I remember trying to convince myself rampage was better than it really was

[danny]

Slighty off topic here but Sky Deilver was my fave monster in till he was killed, I now have a bit of his "meat" after ordering both of the Kaiju Big Battel DVD's.

Back on topic, I wish SNK would add the feel of art of fighting in to more of their games. The pregressive damage and the sounds when the blows connect seem to make the game so much more brutal than the KOF series, what do you guys think?

p.s: Cyber-Wu for the win!!! (Seriously though with the tech we got today SNK should seriusly think about doing a 3D verson perhaps?)

[RoninBuddha]

an another note, AOF should be heading to a 3D fighter (yes, like the likes of Tekken/DOA/VF), cuz of teh way AOF3 Plays... imo that is

[luvsbluemary]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys ;D

To start off I agree with Danny in that I prefer FF to KOF. Thank god I own a Neo CD so I can play the real bouts. On MOTW'S...that game had a great story and alot of potentional with Rock Howard taking the lead. I know alot of people like myself want a pt 2 but I have the feeling that will not happen seeing is that Rock will probably appear in KOF from now on.

I still think they could make another FF and AOF. For instance like AOF 3, a new FF could have a special story centered around Andy or Joe and Terry is there to help out. In honesty I am getting a little tired of the Orochi deal now that Ash is here.

[RoninBuddha]

well, in what i think.. if PLAYMORE would make a MOTW2, then.. it's either 1) average game but still good 2)sucky game that couldnt compare to MOTW1

so its either leave a classic as is, or taint it with ugly siblings...

i prefer teh former, lets jsut all remember MOTW1 as a glorious game..

[sepiasongs]

hey there and welcome.

personally i think they should update fatal fury and art of fighting. garou speaks for itself really and has tons of potential, whereas aof 3 is one of my favourite neo games ever, and despite some lame character design, it really refined the aof style and like, garou also had bags of potential. to be honest i'm not keen on kof:mi. while its fun to play i really couldnt care less if soiree, alba and all the other new character die of syphilis, in fact it might well make relative sense in terms of continuity.

also, what i loved about the old snk was that
al though their 2d fighters ran on the same basic principles that hadn't deviated too much from sf2, they still played differently once you started paying more attention. if you liked a more tactical battle with limits to how many specials and stuff you can do, then aof 3 was for you. if you considered tekken esque comboing to be 'the shizzle' then you'd be into ninja masters or real bout. fatal fury was also very distinct from kof, much like the last blade was to samurai shodown. i think you get the picture.

what i liked about the old snk was that their fighting games all had distinctive styles to them gameplay wise and the loss of this, along with their legendary refusal to compromise under the playmore regime is the saddest thing to see as a fan.

as for kof in general, the orochi saga seems a bit old but at the same time i don't really think it ever went away, i mean the nests saga technically starts with the orochi battle from kof '97. what annoys me about kof these days however is that its full of kids. i mean look at characters like chris, bao, hinato, momoko, maylee, malin etc. this is one thing i never really liked. seems a bit silly that out of all the best fighters in the world a significant minority have to be fucking kids or people who got in on some warped technicality (ramon). i mean i've seen kittens that look more threatening that any of the characters listed above, and its for that reason that i maintain that kof 96 had by far the best line-up of the series, ever.

[luvsbluemary]

Wow Sepiasongs you took the words right out of my mouth.

You know what I really loved about the FF games, well from 3 to the Real Bouts I loved the fact that you could interact with the stages. Remeber in RB on the subway stage where you could either knock your opponent off and into the tracks, or into the subway car and the train leaves....CREATIVE and UNIQUE.

Let us also not forget AOF first employed the zoom in zoom out technique(later to appear in SS)as well your man's face got bruised every time he got hit like in a real fight...creative and unique. I am sorry but I did not like or find "strikers" creative in my book.

Speaking on KOF MI 2 and "kids" what frustrates me is that strong characters in the southtown universe did not get to make such as my gal Blue Mary, King, Geese. Meanwhile Kula is going to appear and I am like WTF! I can understand Yuri and even Mai being in there but Athena has nothing to do with Southtown.

It bums me out

[sukotsuto]

sepiasongs said:

hey there and welcome.

personally i think they should update fatal fury and art of fighting. garou speaks for itself really and has tons of potential, whereas aof 3 is one of my favourite neo games ever, and despite some lame character design, it really refined the aof style and like, garou also had bags of potential. to be honest i'm not keen on kof:mi. while its fun to play i really couldnt care less if soiree, alba and all the other new character die of syphilis, in fact it might well make relative sense in terms of continuity.

also, what i loved about the old snk was that
al though their 2d fighters ran on the same basic principles that hadn't deviated too much from sf2, they still played differently once you started paying more attention. if you liked a more tactical battle with limits to how many specials and stuff you can do, then aof 3 was for you. if you considered tekken esque comboing to be 'the shizzle' then you'd be into ninja masters or real bout. fatal fury was also very distinct from kof, much like the last blade was to samurai shodown. i think you get the picture.

what i liked about the old snk was that their fighting games all had distinctive styles to them gameplay wise and the loss of this, along with their legendary refusal to compromise under the playmore regime is the saddest thing to see as a fan.

as for kof in general, the orochi saga seems a bit old but at the same time i don't really think it ever went away, i mean the nests saga technically starts with the orochi battle from kof '97. what annoys me about kof these days however is that its full of kids. i mean look at characters like chris, bao, hinato, momoko, maylee, malin etc. this is one thing i never really liked. seems a bit silly that out of all the best fighters in the world a significant minority have to be fucking kids or people who got in on some warped technicality (ramon). i mean i've seen kittens that look more threatening that any of the characters listed above, and its for that reason that i maintain that kof 96 had by far the best line-up of the series, ever.

you're definitely right. kids? cutesy characters? how the hell can they fight or even last a second in a brutal, bloodthirsty martial arts fighting tournament full of well-trained fighters who spent most of their whole lives beating the crap out of people like them? not to mention psychopaths and cheap bosses who will mutilate them in a second? quite questionable if real life sends cute kids out to Pride FC or K-1 to fight for the championship, eh? ;D old snk is still the best snk for me

[danny]

Yeah another reason why I perfer AOE and FF games over KOF, no kids heh.

[RoninBuddha]

^contrary to your avatar, PI series is kid friendly