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Post by seiryu on May 24, 2003 3:46:14 GMT -5
The stuff that started it all was SF2 and fatal 1.The fatal team was from a couple of old members from the SF crew that stepped over to SNK for production thus there was Fatal 1.I don't think it's a case of stealing the capcom formula as the crew behind fatal are the original ones.
As for the old days games being crappy,well that's just a personal statement for everybody on their own.I personally grew up with both SF 2 and the Fatal 1 and both where totally different for me.
The strong point of Capcom is that their marketing strategy are second to non.The SF 2 and next installments untill super SF2 turbo are not that groundbreaking or original or so damn differend from the first SF2.They just bring it over so damn well that everybody is consumed by it and wauwed out.Same goes for all their other product that are also far more wider in selection than the SNK productions.Remember that SNK has never really went along with the tecnology and has always stayed on the NEOGEO system base(a friggin 16/24 or whatever everybody says underpowered system.) while Capcom is a gamemaking company that produces games for other platforms that buy the release rights for selling the games.And therefor is going along with the tecnology on making newer/better/flashier games for selling.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing,it's just a totally different kind of set up in the gaming marked.
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Post by Kazuya_UK on May 24, 2003 3:48:50 GMT -5
Between SNK and Capcom I would say things are about 50/50 - yes, SNK and other companies that made Neo Geo games did copy a lot of Capcom stuff in the early days... Fatal Fury was originally made as a challenger to Street Fighter, World Heroes was a BIG SF2 rip off and there were a lot of other things that were copied; but SNK really did try to innovate and introduce things that we hadn't seen before. The power bars and super moves were a couple of things, but there were a lot of others too. Capcom have also been VERY guilty of taking SNK's ideas and copying them... as I say, overall it's probably about 50/50 between the two.
Kaz
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Post by seiryu on May 24, 2003 3:51:57 GMT -5
My conclusion for all this CapcomSNK thingie. It is nice to swap ideas and take an idea to your own kind of development from it as a base,but don't just make a replica version of someones other gameoptions.The capcom/SNK fusion matches are what we all wanted to see.and they are finally here.From both sides as a project and vision,that's good cos we now see the different aproach to the idea from both visions,creative input and design(both in artwork and in game-engine) |
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Post by seiryu on May 29, 2003 7:42:02 GMT -5
Holy craps on me.The new updated line up has been posted in the headline.
one name my friends.
[glow=blue,2,300]KIBAGAMI GENJURO[/glow]
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Post by Throwen on May 29, 2003 8:58:11 GMT -5
I....I...I´m so glad  , Kim and Genjuro , have made their Way into SvC!!!! Wooooow, that´s cool, Genjuro!! Capcom chose Haohmaru, Playmore chooses[shadow=red,left,300]GENJURO[/shadow]!!!!! Playmore knows what we want! |
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Post by BoriquaSNK on May 29, 2003 10:47:02 GMT -5
Genjuro...great news. But I still want Dan godammit. He needs to be in every SvS or CvS game...it just doesn't FEEL right without that sorry son-of-a-bitch.
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Post by seiryu on May 29, 2003 12:01:54 GMT -5
Yeah,Dan is tha man.
I would love to see a match of Dan vs Bonus kun.
Man,that would be rich...not to mention probably the longest match ever.It'll take them years to zapp the lifebar down to zero. ;D
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Post by cellsr on May 30, 2003 8:51:00 GMT -5
 i think this is a really bad marketing Scheme for playmore,svc has took the shine away from Matrimelee.After going to neogeo.com most of the members stoped talking about Matrimelee,its all eyes on SVC.they should cancel the release for Matrimelee now.
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Post by Kazuya_UK on May 30, 2003 9:40:55 GMT -5
Heh, cancelling the release?  Well, I know what you mean though - they seem to have got everyone really hyped for SvC now and Matrimelee almost seems to have been forgotten. It is being talked about over at neo-geo.com though, I've seen a fair few threads discussing it, and a couple of mini reviews posted. I guess the people that want to buy Matrimelee will buy it no matter what anyway, while everyone else would probably just wait for SvC even if they did hold back the release date/info a bit more. Look over at the neostore, Shawn already seems to have sold quite a few: www.neostore.com/detail.asp?ProductID=998www.neostore.com/detail.asp?ProductID=999He's down to 164 English copies left - that's out of 300 I think. Not too bad considering the game has only been out for a couple of days officially. I dunno how many Japanese copies he had in, but it seems like I sold a fair few of them too. Kaz |
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Post by Throwen on May 30, 2003 9:56:32 GMT -5
Yes, I think now, almost everyone knows about Matrimelee, so there´s nothing to do about it anymore! It´s also already been released.
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Post by seiryu on May 30, 2003 12:23:31 GMT -5
I think it will turn out OK.
Look at the back to back release of KOF2002,Rage of the Dragon and Metal slug 3 and Sengoku legends.
You know you want them all.......
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Post by Kazuya_UK on May 30, 2003 15:59:35 GMT -5
Gotta catch 'em all, gotta catch 'em all!  ARGH DAMN YOU POKEMON!!!!!!!!!  Kaz |
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Post by seiryu on May 30, 2003 18:25:47 GMT -5
Ha ha ha,and so the decease keeps on spreading. I must admit to sometimes watch it in the morning before going to work will eating my breakfast. (i can´t believe i just admited that  ) |
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Post by Throwen on May 31, 2003 8:45:38 GMT -5
Ha ha ha,and so the decease keeps on spreading. I must admit to sometimes watch it in the morning before going to work will eating my breakfast. (i can´t believe i just admited that  ) And I can´t believe I just read that! No, just kidding, I´m also watching it sometimes, SOMETIMES!!! But I think you´re still a bit older than me!!!  |
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Post by Kazuya_UK on May 31, 2003 10:19:15 GMT -5
There's over a 140 for all to see,
To have every Neo game is my destiny!
[glow=red,2,300]OH GOD SOMEBODY STOP THE MADNESS![/glow]
;D ;D ;D
Kaz
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