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Post by Candycab on Jun 22, 2006 9:53:06 GMT -5
Some of you may find this interesting ? A few Soldiers from the New Hampshire National Guard carried DV cams around for a year in Iraq. This is exactly the kind of thing that people here in the US should get to see, it puts what really goes on in places like Iraq during times of war into I think the proper perspective instead of the BS the media spews out and the PC shit the Pentigon comes up with. War is an incredibly ugly thing and until people realize this and really see the impact it has on everyone involved we are doomed to repeat it. As someone who has been in actual combat {LCpl USMC ,Panama ,Desert Shield } I can tell you there is nothing glorious about it and its an experience I wouldnt want anyone to have to go through. Anyway this is a pretty interesting look into reality. The War Tapes |
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Post by Kazuya_UK on Jun 22, 2006 16:35:14 GMT -5
Wow, this is interesting... gonna have a look through the site tomorrow when I have more time.
Thanks for the link man.
Kaz
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Post by werD on Jun 22, 2006 16:58:00 GMT -5
Very interesting. So it's coming out in theatres?
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Post by Candycab on Jun 22, 2006 17:41:42 GMT -5
Very interesting. So it's coming out in theatres? Yep .... Check the "Screenings" section of the site, I will be going to see it in San Jose Ca  |
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Post by Candycab on Jul 15, 2006 2:45:06 GMT -5
So I went and saw the movie this evening  It was interesting and pretty much what I expected ,they touched on the three guys lives prior to being deployed and then they got right into it. There was a good amount of their engagement with insurgents while they escorted/protected convoys of trucks used bye Haliburton while they served as Military Police. One of the guys refered to this as the "Cheese War" since alot of the trucks haul cheese and cheese cake and every other food item you can think of ,they even have to escort the pumper trucks that are full of their Latrine water when they go dump the stuff. They were present for alot of IED explosions never taking one directly but seeing them from very close distances and arriving on the scene immediatly following. They get hot and heavy with a few insurgents and you get to see the aftermath though they in no way glorify any of it and basically left alot of carnage out then focus more on whats going on with the guys emmotionally. Its very tastefully done They take a walk through all the burned out Coalition vehicles that seem endless ,it has a very big impact emotionally and definitly isnt something you will see on CNN. They show their return to the free world and how the guys have changed as people since going through the experience ,which was nice to see since I have lived through more or less the same things from my time in the U.S.M.C. , my time spent in and around Kuwait city was much different than what these guys experienced ,though I would say my time in Panama was probably a bit harsher than what these guys went through ? I know one thing for certain and that is simply that I wouldnt wish anything I have seen or done on anyone ! and I know these guys wouldnt either. This is a good look into what really happens when people are dumped into combat and there is alot that you would never see any other way, It was very tastefully done and I would reccomend this movie to anyone who wants a view into what soldiers actually do without any media BS to sway the reality of it. Im sure this will hit video at some point ? but for those of you not in the U.S. who are interested in films like this I highly reccomend "Operation Dreamland" which origionally aired on The Indipendant Film Channel and it follows a group of regular Army Personell while they conduct house to house raids and go through their year long tour of duty. Its definitly worth a look and I know thats out on DVD since IO have burned it Anyway check em both out if you can, they are everything they were supposed to be and maybe a bit more. |
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Post by werD on Jul 15, 2006 13:08:31 GMT -5
Sounds interesting. I'll probably take a look.
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Post by sepiasongs on Jul 15, 2006 20:53:06 GMT -5
sounds interesting. will check it out, although i havn't seen an awful lot of it, some of the american media coverage over there is insane, particularly fox news'.
without wishing to open up a massive can of worms, what is your stance on the conflict as a whole?
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Post by werD on Jul 16, 2006 14:38:00 GMT -5
Lol. Almost as bad as my "Nintendo vs. Sony" thread.  Stance wise, I do not support the reasons for the war and I do not support the way the U.S. government has handled it, but I support the individual troops that are stationed there. -Drew |
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Post by Candycab on Jul 16, 2006 16:49:43 GMT -5
sounds interesting. will check it out, although i havn't seen an awful lot of it, some of the american media coverage over there is insane, particularly fox news'. without wishing to open up a massive can of worms, what is your stance on the conflict as a whole? I think Saddam Hussein definitly needed go ,but I dont think we should be playing God in a foreign country. We should have pulled out bye now and let the Iraqui's have their civil war on their own. But I think the problem with that is these people dont seem to know how to put their country back in any sort of order. Looks like all parties envolved cant ever agree on anything and they are constantly fighting all the time, I really dont see this ending any time soon. We should be rendering aid to these people to help them get on their feet again in terms Water ,Power etc but I think for us to be over there playing Cop is an incredibly big waste of money and resources not to mention all the people on both sides being killed in droves. As an American I think that George Bush is a stupid hick and pretty much an embarrasment when ever he speaks  Contrary to popular belief he doesnt make all the decisions on this stuff as our Presidents have always been more of a figure head. I dont think we have much of a Democracy either since individual people dont have any real voting power ,its Congress and the Senate who run our lives weather we like it or not no matter how we vote. But anyway I think we should have pulled out bye now. |
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Post by sepiasongs on Jul 17, 2006 10:22:30 GMT -5
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Post by Goemon on Jul 19, 2006 20:13:55 GMT -5
I think Saddam Hussein definitly needed go ,but I dont think we should be playing God in a foreign country. We should have pulled out bye now and let the Iraqui's have their civil war on their own. But I think the problem with that is these people dont seem to know how to put their country back in any sort of order. Looks like all parties envolved cant ever agree on anything and they are constantly fighting all the time, I really dont see this ending any time soon. We should be rendering aid to these people to help them get on their feet again in terms Water ,Power etc but I think for us to be over there playing Cop is an incredibly big waste of money and resources not to mention all the people on both sides being killed in droves. As an American I think that George Bush is a stupid hick and pretty much an embarrasment when ever he speaks Contrary to popular belief he doesnt make all the decisions on this stuff as our Presidents have always been more of a figure head. I dont think we have much of a Democracy either since individual people dont have any real voting power ,its Congress and the Senate who run our lives weather we like it or not no matter how we vote. But anyway I think we should have pulled out bye now. Preach. That's pretty much how i feel. I don't think Bush has as much control as people think he does. His administration makes his decisions for him anyways. Sure, he's obviously dumb, but it's not as if he's a dictator that can control the country any way he wants. He's kind of the harmless type of dummy. It makes things easier to have one person to blame every negative global event on though. From alot of stuff my friends brother mentioned to me, (that just got done serving time in Iraq) it seems that if the people who are in charge of our military believe their is a threat they are gonna do what they think needs to be done reguardless of anything. (which isn't exactly a bad thing imo) About the film, i'd really like to see it but i know damn well it won't be coming anywhere near here. I suppose i'll just wait for it to come out on dvd because i'd rather not watch it in garbage quality from the net. |
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Post by Goemon on Jul 19, 2006 20:27:16 GMT -5
Sepiasongs: First of all, sorry about the modification, i had meant to hit quote. Anways, i suppose that pic is supposed to be funny?
When the extremists capture our soldiers and civilian's they saw their heads off with dull blades.
Our troops have made them take part in humiliating acts and deprived them of sleep... Damn... we're just as horrible as them.
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Post by Candycab on Jul 20, 2006 3:13:28 GMT -5
I think Saddam Hussein definitly needed go ,but I dont think we should be playing God in a foreign country. We should have pulled out bye now and let the Iraqui's have their civil war on their own. But I think the problem with that is these people dont seem to know how to put their country back in any sort of order. Looks like all parties envolved cant ever agree on anything and they are constantly fighting all the time, I really dont see this ending any time soon. We should be rendering aid to these people to help them get on their feet again in terms Water ,Power etc but I think for us to be over there playing Cop is an incredibly big waste of money and resources not to mention all the people on both sides being killed in droves. As an American I think that George Bush is a stupid hick and pretty much an embarrasment when ever he speaks Contrary to popular belief he doesnt make all the decisions on this stuff as our Presidents have always been more of a figure head. I dont think we have much of a Democracy either since individual people dont have any real voting power ,its Congress and the Senate who run our lives weather we like it or not no matter how we vote. But anyway I think we should have pulled out bye now. Preach. That's pretty much how i feel. I don't think Bush has as much control as people think he does. His administration makes his decisions for him anyways. Sure, he's obviously dumb, but it's not as if he's a dictator that can control the country any way he wants. He's kind of the harmless type of dummy. It makes things easier to have one person to blame every negative global event on though. From alot of stuff my friends brother mentioned to me, (that just got done serving time in Iraq) it seems that if the people who are in charge of our military believe their is a threat they are gonna do what they think needs to be done reguardless of anything. (which isn't exactly a bad thing imo) About the film, i'd really like to see it but i know damn well it won't be coming anywhere near here. I suppose i'll just wait for it to come out on dvd because i'd rather not watch it in garbage quality from the net. The movie is coming to Fort Lauderdale on 8/4 and Lake Worth on 8/3 where ever that is ? Its worth seeing if you can swing it I agree with the Bush comment {He's kind of the harmless type of dummy} He just sounds so unintelligent when he says crap like " We are going to wrap our hands around the neck of Terrorism and choke it until its gone" or however it went ? then he made the hand gestures like he was chocking something. Who writes that crap ? Its actually sort of comical ,but man the guy just comes off as being as dimwitted as a 5watt lightbulb Tell youre friend thanks for being a Soldier and doing what he has to do Even though its his job for the time being its still an admirable thing and these guys deserve our thanks for being there |
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Post by sepiasongs on Jul 23, 2006 6:30:54 GMT -5
Sepiasongs: First of all, sorry about the modification, i had meant to hit quote. Anways, i suppose that pic is supposed to be funny? When the extremists capture our soldiers and civilian's they saw their heads off with dull blades. Our troops have made them take part in humiliating acts and deprived them of sleep... Damn... we're just as horrible as them. its question of principle. i bet the insurgents and terroist types love the shenanagens in guantanemo and abu ghraib since its a source of endless free publicity for their causes. |
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Post by Goemon on Jul 23, 2006 19:19:27 GMT -5
its question of principle. i bet the insurgents and terroist types love the shenanagens in guantanemo and abu ghraib since its a source of endless free publicity for their causes. Sure, but i look at it as the fact that their is always going to be animosity from troops on either side of a war. It's impossible to completely control. |
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