overrated games

[Hibiki]

Last Blade 1 has more backgrounds, Yuki is stronger, and Kaede's ability to change into 'Super Saiyan' during gameplay, are the points that I like more than LB2. But overall I still like LB2. Simple reason....Hibiki is there.

Overrated games........I'll go for Kingdom Hearts for PS2. This is highly recommended by some of my friends. But when I play it, I just don't feel that interested. First, I don't like kids to be the main character. Second, the camera movement is strange, makes me hard to follow the battle scenes. Third, I'm simply not good in action games. So, I think this is an overrated game, at least for me.

[sepiasongs]

i kninda agree about kingdom hearts, to be honest when i first heard about it i thought to myself "sellout" and that it'd be sqauresoft's first epic stinker, but it wasn't too bad certainly in terms of presentation its up there with square's best, but what bothered me was the characters, which sadly arn't. was a fun game for a while but not one i've ever felt much need to go back to afterwards.

anyway, this is not is much a overrated game but rather something that i think ruins certain games, that is the stupid idea or having to turn around then move forward in resident evil and parasite eve. in my eyes, its crap. i know it probably adds to the scary factor but when fighting bosses its utter pain in the arse, which at times can make the game anything from frustrating to borderline unplayable.

[Goemon]

phry said:

Can I be controversial as well? I'm going to nominate Halo!

Preach. Seriously though, I think Halo 1 & 2 got so big because it's so hyped by the media. It's the FPS to play because everybodies friends play it so they start playing it and it grows from their kinda like CS did. The multiplayer is kinda fun imo though not very skillfull and the supposively "deep" storyline is about as deep as the movie starship troopers. It's a decent game but definately overrated.

tsimnami9999 said:

LAST BLADE 2 i cant play the bastard starts off quite easy then i get to the big guy with his huge club and thats it deflect or no deflect it annoys me and stops me from enjoying it

No offense but dont' you think it's a bit unfair to call a game overrated cause you can't get past "the big guy with his huge club" in singleplayer? I'd say LB 1 & 2 are some of the most skill taking and best fighters ever created.

buddhakun said:

(imo, FF6 is the definitive FinalFantasy, but that's just me)

Preach. I love FF7 and i think it earns its hype as an excellent game but FF6 is definately a classic and it's a shame more of the current RPG players that started out playing RPGs on the PSX don't go back and give it a chance cause it is quite an amazing game.

buddhakun said:

MvsC2

Agreed, MvsC is a button mashing Bonanza and i see how it could be fun for a day but i think it is a game more for people that don't really care about compeditive play therefore useless for someone like me.

[Goemon]

K, now for mine. Ya'll took away all of my top ones Halo would have been my 1st. Gotta Throw Dead or Alive out their, it's fast, pretty, and simple. Just what alot of the mainstream gamers want nowadays but the gameplay is about as deep as a puddle.

[sepiasongs]

goemon said:

Throw Dead or Alive out their, it's fast, pretty, and simple. Just what alot of the mainstream gamers want nowadays but the gameplay is about as deep as a puddle.

that's true, i bought a copy of that (along with the psone reissue of final fantasy vi) off ebay the other week and was pretty dissapointed with it. though i'd never dare call myself an expert on things such as balance when it comes to fighting games doa just felt like a tarted up vf clone.

i personally quite like mvc2 since everoyne can happliy bash buttons which is great if you have friends over who arn't really into fighting games. the only thing i dislike is the hi-rs 3d backgrounds against lo-res sprites.

[Harv]

GTA San Andreas : Fucking great game, definitely not overrated!! Top music on there too, Lynyrd Skynyrd:Free bird. Man I love that song

Halo : Overrated

Halo 2 : Even more overrated, 1 player game sucked and was too short and the god damn alien weapons are shit!!

Street Fighter III 3rd Strike : Damn I thought I was the only one, loads of people LOVE that game, I think its shite!! Overrated

Last Blade 1+2 : Amazing games, definitely not overrated.

Final Fantasy VII : Not too sure about this one, I rushed out to buy it the day it came out but I couldn't get into it, maybe I need to try it again!!

MvsC2 : Fantastic game, loads of cool characters and great for two player battles with less experienced people..

My turn to be controversial IKARUGA : Overrated, I really didn't like it, More like a puzzle game than a good blaster!!

[RoninBuddha]

ok, another thing which bothers me...

i dont like Tekken... that much, (kill me now kaz,hehe)
i only bothered to play it cuz its prolly the popular fighter around, but personally, i think Tekken gets too much credit, i know its a great game, but ya know, Virtua fighter 4 also is a good game, so is DOA2 and SoulCalibur... but still, even though Tekken has a awsome cast of characters (asuka rulz), relatively easy to learn gameplay, and great gfx of course (im talking about T5), i still dont like it... great competition though...

harv2 said:

My turn to be controversial IKARUGA : Overrated, I really didn't like it, More like a puzzle game than a good blaster!!

of course it is , but personally, i think IKARUGA is one of the definitive shmups out there, it just screams epic-ness...

[Debujin]

Well, being the fighting games fan that i am, i may well be putting my very reputation in jepoardy with some of the opinions i subscribe to about various games mentioned...

Street Fighter 3: Third Strike - i guess i'm probably one of the only people on here who thinks that 3S is a gorgeous, gorgeous game. Sublime graphics and animation, fantastic character design, and seriously strategical gameplay (the parrying system is a stroke of genius, in my opinion). It may not seem like it for a single player, but for two players it's like chess with knuckledusters (if you'll excuse the metaphor repetition). As i said in my intro, i like 3S so much i bought the arcade version (still paying for it, but that doesn't really bother me). Not deliberately trying to fly in anyone's face here, but 3S is one of the few games i'd take with me to a desert island.

Last Blade 1/2. Again, i think both of these games are sublime - the graphical style and attention to detail is astounding, the characters are all very well designed (i personally like Amano, Lee Rekka, and Akari), and the weapon deflect system is a huge innovation. And both games are squeezed onto an MVS cart each! How this was done i don't know - the games don't show any signs of being cut or pared down.

Dead or Alive: The beauty is not just in the action, but also in the realism of the fighting styles. Each style represented (kung fu, drunken master, karate...) is incredibly accurate, right down to the small nuances and moves that might get lost in a large-scale action game. Also, the counter system is intuitive to the extent that a new player can potentially defeat a veteran without resorting to cheap tactics, so the game is accessible to a very wide audience.

Marvel Vs. Capcom 2: I can appreciate that the fast-n'-furious action isn't ideal for tournaments, but the sheer wealth of characters and incredible attacks are really something to see in casual play. I think basically that when dealing with a fast-paced, grand-scale universe like Marvel Comics, a sedate play style would be an injustice to larger-than-life characters like the Hulk and Spiderman. It's possible that play can develop into (as mentioned before) a button-bashing bonanza, but then there aren't many fighting games in which that couldn't happen. The real appreciation for these games comes from the people who take them seriously and learn the intricacies of each title.

I do apologise if i've gone against what you've said, but as a person who's staple videogame diet is fighting games, i am moved to act when symphonies of binary such as the aforementioned are in an 'over-rated games' thread. To me, seeing some of these titles here is like finding first-edition Chaucer and Dickens in a grimy bargain-book basket for pennies.

[Kazuya_UK]

I would probably agree with what you say about MVC2 (even if I do make fun of it now and then)... true it's not well balanced (that's an understatement) and it's pretty much a circus, but for me that is part of the appeal. The reason is that when I play some of my friends on other fighting games, although I'm far from a great player, I can beat most of them quite easily, and trying to school them on how to play Last Blade etc is nigh on impossible (they just don't play most of these games enough).

However, bang on MVC2, and there's no problem with that. Anyone can pick it up and play it; whether that means they button bash, pick the cheapest characters in there, or even attempt to play it skillfully, you are guaranteed a fun time! It's an ideal game for the non-initiated, and also for a post pub "I'm drunk and need something easy to play" session, especially with a bunch of friends.

As for SFIII, as I've said before I know my dislike of it is not warranted when you consider how good/skilled it plays, but it's more that I have a real personal dislike for the whole atmosphere of the game, and in general the cast of characters. Most people would disagree with me though of course, and I do understand that!

Kaz

[Kazuya_UK]

harv2 said:

GTA San Andreas : Fucking great game, definitely not overrated!! Top music on there too, Lynyrd Skynyrd:Free bird. Man I love that song

Sorry to double post, but... I'm not the only one? I thought it was just that I'm getting old... that's actually one of my dads favourite songs

lol!

Kaz

[Harv]

Your old man has good taste in music ;D

[Kazuya_UK]

Hehe, he's actually quite a big Skynard fan in general.

Kaz

[Wyvernlord]

What brings Street Fighter III down is not the fighting system. Hell no! It's the character roster. Unlike the Street Fighter II's colorful cast, some of the new additions just end up looking like Darkstalker rejects. Let's review...

Alex- Never tried him that much. The good thing is that he fights in pants unlike Zangief who seems content in battling in bloomers.

Dudley - A black british boxer? Yeah right. I've never seen a black man wear cloths and don a mustache like that.

Elena- Lame. Especially the stage music. Dhalsim was way cooler IMO.

Gill - Worst Character Ever. Gives Urien a run for his money in terms of homo eroticness.

Ibuka - I can't bring myself to hate a ninja. Especially a female ninja. Doesn't play too bad either.

Makoto - For some reason she reminds me of Yahiko from Rurouni Kenshin. Aside from that nothing much. Not really my cup of tea.

Necro - Just...no.

Oro - Looks like something that came out of a giant's nose. I can't bring myself to hate Oro, though. Don't ask why, I just can't.

Q - Inspector Gadget with an Iron Mask! Next!

Remy - Don't like him. He reminds me of Michael Jackson for some reason.

Sean - Meh

Twelve - I like playing as him. He just doesn't fit much in a Street Fighter game.

Urien - Fighting in a diaper is gay. Next!

Yang and Yun - Don't mind them. I perfer Yang over Yun though.

[Kumavonmitsurugi]

SF3s overated? lol. I would say that SF3s is definetly not overated. The game is one of the best (if not the best) effort of Capcom to create a fighting game. The Progressive hit frame system, and the parry system are genious. The speed is also very good in my opinion. The new characters while I do not like some of the designs, are pretty good(some ranging from very good, to ok). Plus the graphics(is it me or are they lower resolution than Double Impact?) and animation is awsome. The characters are also incredibly balanced, but not as Balanced as Samurai Showdown 2(If ever a fighter was balanced, SS2 is it ). Lets not forget that if this game wasnt made we wouldnt be playing MOTW today.

[sepiasongs]

trying to school them on how to play Last Blade etc is nigh on impossible (they just don't play most of these games enough).

However, bang on MVC2, and there's no problem with that. Anyone can pick it up and play it; whether that means they button bash, pick the cheapest characters in there, or even attempt to play it skillfully, you are guaranteed a fun time! It's an ideal game for the non-initiated, and also for a post pub "I'm drunk and need something easy to play" session, especially with a bunch of friends.

that is soo true! i once had some mates round most of which hardly play games at and when they doo is usally of the first person or rts type so after educating them alittle about capcom and snk i thought i'd stick on cvs2. now trying to explain what's second nature to you (to the extent that you don't even think about it) to the complely unitiated is hard in itself, now add some (read, many) drinkies and a game with that amount of characters, moves and six "grooves" and you're looking at a lost cause.

so we switched to mvs2 and lo and behold, a good time was had by all.

Dudley - A black british boxer? Yeah right. I've never seen a black man wear cloths and don a mustache like that.

i have!

like i said before, i've only played a few times but one enduring memory i have of it was the total break that capcom made with all that went before it which i still maintain was the right choice. espcially in the realm of character design which is some of the most refreshing i've seen in a long time especially with characters like dudley. its just a big shame they were virtually all dropped from the vs. games rosters in the same way snk did with the better of its newer characters like k' and vannessa.