Post by Candycab on Oct 6, 2003 14:37:50 GMT -5
Let me also add to what Kaz just wrote ,if you do get an MVS cart that looks like its origional as far as the boards and chips go but has wiring soldered in it ,keep in mind it may be a repair ,that goes for Eeproms [windowed chips] aswell in some cases.
Another thing to note is that SNK used Toshiba and Sharp chips most of the time ,ive seen some Sony chips aswell that are supposed to be origional ,but Ive only seen them a few times.
There are also some MVS conversions floating around out there ,thats where an operator has used one game to make another ,Personally I dont think that is such a bad thing as it is made from 2 actuall games instead of being fake. In fact I own one myself ,my Turfmatsers is a conversion. I couldnt find a real one and ran across this one for $60.00 after asking Mike at M.D. if he had any TurfMasters in stock. Works fawlessly
Today there really is no reason to cannibalize one game to make another since there are loads of almost every cart out there for very low prices. I do think this is a great way to maybe utilize a few dead carts though
Anyway one more thing , when you inspect the boards themselves pay close attention to the sloder points on the back side of the board. See if the chips are all uniformly machine soldered ,if they arent it willl be very noticable almost instantly. This will tell you that the chip was put on after the production run was finished ,so it could be a repair or maybe part of a conversion { conversions usually have wires and jumpers in them though } most bootleg manufacturers cant soldier their way out of a paper bag and this is usually where it shows.
Hey Kaz ? Do you remember where the list of all the MVS chip #'s is posted ? Was that just over at Shawns or was it someone elses site ? like Tiptonium ?
If one of us could find that ,maybe we could link it up to the forums here I havent seen it in so long I almost forgot about it 
thats a great resource for identifying origional chips.
Another thing to note is that SNK used Toshiba and Sharp chips most of the time ,ive seen some Sony chips aswell that are supposed to be origional ,but Ive only seen them a few times.
There are also some MVS conversions floating around out there ,thats where an operator has used one game to make another ,Personally I dont think that is such a bad thing as it is made from 2 actuall games instead of being fake. In fact I own one myself ,my Turfmatsers is a conversion. I couldnt find a real one and ran across this one for $60.00 after asking Mike at M.D. if he had any TurfMasters in stock. Works fawlessly
Today there really is no reason to cannibalize one game to make another since there are loads of almost every cart out there for very low prices. I do think this is a great way to maybe utilize a few dead carts though
Anyway one more thing , when you inspect the boards themselves pay close attention to the sloder points on the back side of the board. See if the chips are all uniformly machine soldered ,if they arent it willl be very noticable almost instantly. This will tell you that the chip was put on after the production run was finished ,so it could be a repair or maybe part of a conversion { conversions usually have wires and jumpers in them though } most bootleg manufacturers cant soldier their way out of a paper bag and this is usually where it shows.
Hey Kaz ? Do you remember where the list of all the MVS chip #'s is posted ? Was that just over at Shawns or was it someone elses site ? like Tiptonium ?
If one of us could find that ,maybe we could link it up to the forums here
I havent seen it in so long I almost forgot about it thats a great resource for identifying origional chips.